What do Chi, Orgone, Prana, Lung, Odic Force, Mana, Vril, and Ki all have in common? When you force someone to define them in English it they usually say something like “its a type of spiritual energy…”
The energy wars are still going on over on Patricks blog and making the rounds on many others as well. Patrick has recognized that Information is just as much a junk term as spirits and energy so he is now calling his model of magic “The Semiotic Model”.
Compartmentalization is a funny thing and one that we need to watch out for in magic. As an example outside of magic, most dermatologists insist that products like Proactive do not work to prevent Acne. That product in fact works pretty well for most people. But if it works you wouldnt go see a dermatologist. So the dermatologists opinion is built on the fact that he ONLY sees the failed cases. We all tend to interpret everything through our own lens and experience, which is fine unless we do not keep this in mind and make attempts to see beyond it or expand our experience.
What does this have to do with our debate? Well Patrick is a linguist and an academic. Lo and behold the model that works to explain how all magic works and which we can dicth energy for is SEMIOTICS – a specialist term from the academic study of linguistics.
I still havent seen ANYONE talk about the serious work that people do with Chi-Gung, Accupuncture, Tsa Lung, Orgone accumulators, Reiki, or any type of putative energy that is used in any number of therapies, and workings be explained with out it. Such examples get routinely avoided by the anti-energy people because they do not fit their model, yet cannot be as easily dismissed as the ramblings of a crystal waving yo yo.
When the accupuncturist uses a needle to adjust the flow of chi in a meridian, he must be a total dumb-ass bumpkin despite his years of training. Its clearly all the work of spirits or a symbolic act working on the mind depending upon which model we are using.
Of course the energy people do the same thing. Patrick gave an example just the other day of someone who was using energy to explain a working that really was more on the symbolic/mental level.
In the end I tend to take people at their word about how their system works unless I work with it myself and come up with a different finding. I wonder if Patrick and RO spent a year doing mantak Chia work if they would not come away with a wider world view.